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New Video: Mission Accomplished - Four Years Later

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4 years ago, on May 1, 2003, George W. Bush declared our "mission accomplished" in the Iraq war.

"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."
- George W. Bush
May 1, 2003

Four years later over 3,300 U.S. troops have been killed and many more have been wounded. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been killed in the ongoing civil war that is ripping the country apart. On this anniversary of "Mission Accomplished" demand an end to the Iraq war and the impeachment of the liar who got us there. Bring our troops home now!

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Posted on Tue, 01 May 2007 12:46
Beata @ Tue, 01 May 2007 07:18
I was just discovered this web-side and I have had the occasion to watch this last Video presentation. I am shocked !!!! I cannot stop crying ... !!!! Yes, we should do everything to stop this absolutely nonsensical war in Iraq !!!! In my country Poland the reality about this war is hidden as in the most European countries. Thank you Avy that I am not blind to this problem any longer - regards -Beata
Larry Piper @ Wed, 02 May 2007 07:25
Once again you have made a terrific video. I hope you get both your wishes granted soon and the troops home.

Thank you for your empathy and tears. There is a movement underway in the world which, if sucessful, will bring us all closer together. There are no 'others', only brothers.

Sincerely, Larry smile
Rori @ Thu, 03 May 2007 02:39
Thank you for the somber reminder and the video. I will share it.
Robert @ Fri, 04 May 2007 04:48
You have yet again put together another well done video. Please do not let it be forgotten of the wonderful things that we are doing here. Children receiving medical treatment from our Service Members and all the infrastructure that we have added to the wonderful people of Iraq. Just pray we come home safe and don't turn your collective backs on the Service Members who made the ultimate sacrifice.

SSG Robert Barnes
Balad, Iraq
alancharles @ Sun, 06 May 2007 08:23
Ava, keep doing what you're doing. If each of us visiting your site would send a link to it to everyone in our email address lists and our elected representatives, more and more people would begin seeing past all the administration spin and see George Bush for what he really is.

To Robert: I am confident that most of us visiting this site are thankful for the sacrifices the administration is asking of our military men and women fighting in Iraq and elsewhere in the world, however, we are also painfully aware that our engagement in Iraq is killing and maiming untold Americans AND Iraqis and is costing us billions of dollars to wage. Billions which might be better spent ensuring better jobs, education and medical care for the Americans in OUR country. Billions which have been borrowed from countries like China. Billions which our grandchildren will have to repay through higher and higher taxes.
Yaxum @ Sun, 06 May 2007 03:36
I'm french and I discovered your blog in le Monde(the world a french newspaper)of the 21 april I'm with you with all one's heart. Continue doing that. Good luck !!!
Beth @ Tue, 08 May 2007 09:26
Thnak you for what you are doing. We need to be reminded that it is our responsibility to contact our congressional men and women about determining if (YES) there are grounds for impeachment of our presidnet adn vice preseident. If so, they must start those preceedings.
I also want to tell Robert, that the people I know who are workign for peace, are very much in support of ensuring that our troops are treated well, but the war must end.
Laurie @ Tue, 08 May 2007 10:10
Ava, I don't know what else to say except, "Wow." Thank you for the efforts you make to bring this country to its senses once and for all. crying
Robert @ Wed, 09 May 2007 05:35
To allencharles,

I really don't care how much money it takes to get this job done. Money is not the reason we are here. You have to remember that there are more than just Iraqis that we are fighting. There are Iranians, Syrians, Saudis, Checnians, etc., These people don't want Iraq free. The concept of one person one vote is so alien to so many in this culture. If you would like I have pictures that I sent Ava that I could send you and you can see the children when we come to a village. When you give them a stuffed animal or a ball. Their faces just light up. The majority of the people here now that if we leave, there will be a major purge of innocent lifes ended possibly in the hundreds of thousands. These people are real. I have seen them, shook their hands, and broken bread with them. Let's end this thing after the Iraqis have a stable government and the need for us is not as great.

SSG Barnes
Balad, Iraq wink
alancharles @ Wed, 09 May 2007 10:08
Robert: As an old Vietnam vet, I can assure you I have walked into villages and had the same experiences.

I would disagree that money is not the reason we are in Iraq. I believe it is THE reason. I said during the runup to the war that it was about the oil. I still believe that.

You may not recall that Bush's reasons for attacking Iraq have changed 27 times at last count, with the idea of "spreading democracy" only coming in to play recently.

When polls in Iraq show 70% of Iraqi citizens believe it is ok to shoot at American soldiers, I think it is past time to bring them home.

Whether we leave today, tomorrow, next month or next year, the result will be the same. In the meantime, our soldiers are nothing more than targets. Having been a soldier myself, I believe there is a big difference between "prevailing in war" and acting as "peacekeepers" afterwards.

It is well past time to bring our troops home and start the healing process.
Robert @ Thu, 10 May 2007 07:18
Consdiering that every President going back to at least Nixon had a strategy to keep this part of the world free from insurgencies and destabiliazations, Bush's policies would be in accordance with that. If this war was about oil, how come gasoline is approaching $4.00 a gallon in some parts of the States? I am not familiar with a poll that says taht 70% of Iraqi citizens beleive that it is ok to shoot an American Soldier. If that is true that concerns me, but what also concerns me is some twisted sicko dressed up as Mickey Mouse and telling Arab children that it is your duty to take an AK-47 and gun down the "infidel". This whole area is a mess, that is without a doubt, but when we as Americans were a struggling republic, there were other States looking to give us a hand. I have met these people. If we were to pull out tomorrow, they would be branded as collaborators and summarily executed. That would haunt me as well as others for the rest of our lives.
curious @ Thu, 10 May 2007 11:01
Robert: You are right that the whole area is a mess. We are the reason for the mess. This country freely uses the word "terrorist" to cause us fear but in fact this country is the "terrorist". We have invaded and occupied a country that did nothing to us and we are producing more hate toward us every day by our actions. Isn't it amazing that the attention has switched from Bin Ladin to a totalling different subject. I do not know if that was even factual. This story keeps changing by our own country. GWB admitted, himself, that we went over to Irag for the oil. As for the price of gas, remember that GWB is in it to make his own oil wealth. It is unfortunate that enlisted people such as yourself are not getting the real facts just the programming they want you to hear and some are believing it. Wake up.
Robert @ Fri, 11 May 2007 11:35

Are you telling me that the area was not a mess before we invaded for a second time?? Do you know the kinds of crimnal acts that Sadaam and his two "wonderful" sons did to the Iraqi citizens? Rape and toture rooms, which is just such an unthinkable concept for me. And you are telling me to wake up?!

You have to understand Sadaam was not a popular man here. The Iranians hated him the Syrians hated him and the Saudis and the Kuwaitis were terrified of him. These people here are getting their first taste of freedom and it has a nice flavor. Whatever the reason we came here is really unimportant NOW!! Hey, we are here now and just let us finsh this.

After the Nazis were defeated, there was still quite a bit of resistance from some of the losers. There were Soldiers taking sniper fire, arson and all kinds of terror. We did not leave. We should not turn our backs on this part of the world again.

SSG Barnes
Balad, Iraq
alancharles @ Fri, 11 May 2007 04:10
Robert, are you aware America has been proven to have sent prisoners to countries who used similar tortures so we could pretend to be above that?

That Saddam Hussein was a vile, evil dictator has never been questioned; that he posed any real threat to America has.

The reason we went to Iraq is important now because more and more Americans now believe we attacked Iraq without just cause. And regardless of isolated incidences of children coming out to greet you, most Iraqis believe the same thing and do indeed say they want us out of their country. You obviously have internet service; google that and read it for yourself.

This administration is running a shell game; borrowing heavily from other nations to finance Mr. Bush's nation-building exercise, which will fall to our children and grandchildren to repay in the form of higher and higher taxes, all the while ignoring our own citizens right here at home by encouraging more and more good-paying jobs with benefits to be outsourced, leaving Americans with lower-paying jobs with no benefits, while our constitutional rights are under attack daily.

Right is right and wrong is wrong, no matter who is doing it, and right now it is difficult for America to claim the high moral ground because of the actions our president has taken during his time in office.
curious @ Fri, 11 May 2007 04:54
sadRobert, there is not a person who cares about what is happening that is not aware of what Sadaam did. However, GWB did not go there to free the Iraqi people anymore than Bush, Sr. did. Bush, Sr. went there for his partners of Kuwait and left the Iraqi people at the mercy of Sadaam even with all their cries for help. They did not care then and they do not care now. There is not a people anywhere that these criminals care for including this country. The people of the gulf coast were left to die and the whole are is still a nightmare. If you believe this, why are we not in Darfur for example. I believe these children may say this to you but at least under Sadaam they had water, electricity, food and the ability to go to the market without being killed. Because of GWB and his cronies hundreds of thousands of people not including our own would be alive if we did not invade this country. You mentioned Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Iran. With the possible exception of Iran, everyone of those other countries are where the extremists come from. GWB will not interefere with these countries because they are his business partners and he uses the excuse that they are sovereign states. Iraq is a sovereign state as is Afganistan. Tell me, why are large compounds being built if we are going to free these people and then leave? Robert, I wish you safety.
alancharles @ Fri, 11 May 2007 05:47
Robert, I just read this and thought you might want to read it. It seems that more than half the Iraqi parliament wants America to leave Iraq.
curious @ Fri, 11 May 2007 07:58
cryingalancharles: I hope that Robert views this. I thank you for giving the information. I went to this site and afterwards sent this to many people. To everyone, I know better but still mispelled Saddam. Is there a face sign for "huh".
Addie @ Sat, 12 May 2007 01:38
This video should be manditory for every American to watch! What are we waiting for? IMPEACH NOW!!!!! Thank you Amy another job really well done!
Peace to you and yours...
ydd @ Mon, 14 May 2007 06:24
If the war in Iraq is to save the Iraqi people from injustice why do we not attack Red China? That would be a war we could all participate in.
Lorca @ Mon, 14 May 2007 10:51
Robert, the troops will not be abandoned by the American people. We all know that the military did not start this war. George Bush did and he has changed his reasoning several times. This is a war of hubris and chest-thumping. I feel great sympathy for the Iraqi people who are caught up in Bush's bid to rule the world. They didn't ask for this either. Yes, Saddam was a brutal dictator. But I'm not sure that the Iraqi people are better off now than they were then. America has backed many corrupt and brutal regimes but we didn't go after them because they didn't have oil. I wish you well and hope you return to your loved ones very soon. Peace be with you.
curious @ Tue, 15 May 2007 08:25
I am curious about something regarding Robert. In the site of Camp Casey Easter 07, Ava stated that his IP address shows that he is not in Iraq nor on a military base. What is going on?
Robert @ Tue, 15 May 2007 11:48
I am in Iraq. I am not an American miltary base, because I am in Iraq. That would rather disingenuous for me to say that I am in Iraq and I am not. I have sent Ava pictures of this place and of myself.
Robert @ Tue, 15 May 2007 12:01
The majority of the Iraqis want us gone, that is true. The translators have told us this. However, most of the Iraqis beleive that if we leave prematurely, there will be a major purge with dead men, women and children in the hundreds of thousands.

These are great people. We can't let the bad guys win. Let's have the Iraqis get on there feet and then we will leave.

Germany, Japan, and Italy are still occupied by American Service Memebers, that war ended over 60 years ago
curious @ Tue, 15 May 2007 01:43
They are great people and they do not deserve what we have done and what we have allowed into their ,until we invaded ,secure country from other extremists.Please do not give the Saddam theory again. We all know. We are solely the cause for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in a country that we invaded, no one else, WE DID IT. This administration is responsible for cimes against humanity no matter how many different icings you put on the cake.
So what you are saying is that we have no intention of leaving this country that we invaded. That is what the compounds and bases being built are for.Maybe it can be used to put more innocent people without charges or representation in prison for the rest of their lives. The ones that are not killed. We should be so proud.
ydd @ Tue, 15 May 2007 02:03
Robert, I have two sons that have served in Iraq and Afghadistan. I served in Nam. My sons are conflicted for the same reasons you give. When the helicopters left Saigan with people hanging from the landing rails, I cried on the inside. The soldier in the field didn't lose either war, America lost those wars by allowing them to go on. All the blood on my hands or yours or any soldier can change a situation bigger than a rifle. We have no choice now or later we WILL leave. Lets suck it up and get out now before we kill and maim more people!
ydd @ Tue, 15 May 2007 02:05
Correction.. we can not change a situation bigger than the individual soldier.
alancharles @ Tue, 15 May 2007 02:06
Robert, if you reread your first paragraph, you will see the paradox we face. The Iraqis want us gone ~ but not too soon. Who will determine when "too soon" is?

News reports here tell us thousands of Iraqis have been killed or maimed and almost a million have fled the country because of our presence there.

You, yourself have admitted the majority of Iraqis want us gone.

The Iraqi parliament has spoken out against our presence there.

The commanders in the field are beginning to speak out against our presence there.

The majority of the American people are beginning to speak out against our presence there.

Even politicians who once supported this war are beginning to speak out against our presence there.

What should we tell the families of the American military as they watch their loved ones go off for their third and fourth tours of duty to be sacrificed on the altar of "spreading democracy" in a country that you, yourself admit doesn't really want us there?

It really is well past time to bring our troops home, Robert.
curious @ Tue, 15 May 2007 03:05
The next time anyone tries to give the children as an excuse on why we are in Iraq, please go to
Our service people have also felt this horror from depleted uranium that we are using there.
alancharles @ Tue, 15 May 2007 05:49
Curious, one of the things most war supporters don't think about is the week of "shock and awe" on Baghdad, where over 5,000 bombs were dropped on the city that week.

Perhaps someone can tell me how a bomb can tell "a good guy" from "a bad guy," because with that many bombs dropped on ANY city, it seems to me we'd kill and maim a whole lot of innocent civilians. A helluva way to be "liberated."

Perhaps the reason the administration so tightly controls what comes out of Iraq as "news" is the same reason it prohibits the photographing of the caskets of the Americans killed there. If people began realizing the horror of war, my guess is there would be an even smaller minority still supporting it than there is now.
Robert @ Wed, 16 May 2007 01:47
The Iraqis are great people they do deserve what we have done for them. Medical treatment to include vaccinations. Building up the roads. Electricty in parts that have never had it. Clean water facilities. Free elections. How can you tell me that these people or any people don't deserve that??
alancharles @ Wed, 16 May 2007 07:37
Robert, I don't think anyone on this site would disagree that it is good to do these things for the Iraqis since it was US who bombed the smithereens out of their country, but how about US? We have 43 million people right here at home who don't have access to good medical care because so many better-paying jobs with insurance coverage have been sent overseas to increase corporate profits.

To single out the Iraqis as "great people" is another paradox we face. How about the people in China? Or South Africa? They too, are "great people" I'm sure, so why aren't we trying to do for them what we're trying to do for the Iraqis?

If the Iraqis truly want American-styled "democracy," why on earth do 70% of them believe it is ok to shoot at our soldiers?

We can stay and continue losing soldiers to that thinking every day, or we can come home and let them fight it out amongst themselves. I believe most of us on this site prefer we come home.
curious @ Wed, 16 May 2007 10:20
Iraq now, thanks to us, looks nothing like anything livable. You mention electricity, water, food, etc. Ever since we have been there this country does not have this. We destroyed this along with their people. The solution is not more deaths and more fighting. It is not even to let them destroy each other. Why cannot there be help in diplomatic discussions with all. This country acts like small children playing cops and robbers. Obviously, the people in the administration of this country do not have the mental facilities to speak to anyone that they do not like. Hence the small child mentality. It needs to be taken out of their hands and countries using logic with no special interests need to get involved. This country is nothing short of the school yard bully. Other countries need to not allow the US any access to talks to get this done for the sake of that region. All we care about is special interests, oil and the few making money on others deaths. Our children should come home. GWB has killed too many already.
Robert @ Wed, 16 May 2007 11:21

Either I was not paying attention when you refered me to where it was sited that 70% of Iraqis believe that it is ok to shoot our Soldiers.

I agree China and South Africa are not very nice places as their human rights record show. However, I don't understand what it is that you are suggesting we as Americans do there. I did not say that the Iraqis are the only people worthy of great.


If you believe that we have dismantled electricty, water facilites, food, etc. from the Iraqis, I cna't even respond to that intelligently. We have done so much in those areas, but you never hear about a lot of the good things that we do here.

SSG Robert E. Barnes
Balad, Iraq
curious @ Wed, 16 May 2007 02:09
Since the media are lap dogs to the right wing administration, if indeed there had actually been all this good done we would have heard with angel wings attached. They certainly have lied enough. Robert: Of everything that I said in my statement the only thing that you got out of that was you thinking that I said we dismantled all utilities. WHAT! The ultilities, food access are limited if not gone. Did we do this intentionally. I hope not. Are they damaged or gone due to us. Certainly. YES.
alancharles @ Wed, 16 May 2007 03:02
Robert, I suggested you google the poll so you could look at several links, but you can start with this one

The point I was making about your "great people" comment was that there are many countries with vile, evil dictators as bad as, or worse than, Saddam, but we have never said boo about any of them. I stand by my earlier comment that I believe we attacked Iraq for the oil ~ and all the justifications that have come afterward were just to hide that fact.

I agree with curious that if there had indeed been all the progress you mention, we'd surely have heard about it by now, but all the reports I've read and seen say quite the contrary. Again, you can google "Iraqi utilities" and find many articles on the subject, but here's one to get you started:

After awhile, you may get the idea that there are three sets of "news;" one for the troops in the field, another for the supporters of the war and another for those who prefer to know what's really going on.
alancharles @ Wed, 16 May 2007 03:19
Robert, here are a couple more links for you.

This one is about the availability of electricity in Baghdad.

This one is about the availability of water in Baghdad.

This one is about the availability of food in Baghdad.

This is four years after the week of "shock and awe." How much time and money do we want to continue putting into this effort?
ydd @ Wed, 16 May 2007 03:19
Once when I was part of an operation near the DMZ in Vietnam the rumor was circulated that we were preparing for a massive invasion of North Vietnam and China. At that point it become clear to,at least me, why we don't want to lightly fight someone near our on size. China has weapons of mass destruction and they are aimed at us, yet we have diplomatic relations with them and buy their stuff at WalMart. Iraq didn't attack us on 911 otherwise it wouldn't have been called a pre-emptive attack. If they or China or anybody else did so then by all means lets rumble, I'm ready! In the mean time lets keep our powder dry and choose our wars more wisely.
alancharles @ Wed, 16 May 2007 03:26
Well said, ydd
ydd @ Wed, 16 May 2007 04:12
Thanks alancharles. I want to say a few more words. The Bush administration called our attack on Iraq a preemptive attack, which means that they had not attacked us yet. When we attacked the Taliban in Afghadistan I cheered, when our Army corned their Army in the hills for the US Air Force to carpet bomb the Hell out of them I got all GungHo and shouted God Bless America. Then we let George Bush lead us into a war that we will be ashamed of for many years. I see our great and glorious military tired and short of men and material. Our National Guard (once called weekend warriors) at risk of not being able to respond to national disasters because they and their equipment have been donated to the war effort. Forgive me if I don't show the proper respect to our commander-in-chief.
alancharles @ Thu, 17 May 2007 09:11
There is an excellent article by Joseph L. Galloway, co-author of "We Were Soldiers Once ... and Young." at that deserves a read.

I just wrote Mr. Galloway that it frightens me to think how much more damage Mr. Bush can do in his next 614 days in office.

No matter how frustrating it may seem, we really need to be pounding our keyboards writing letters to our elected representatives in Washington to end this war as soon as possible.

Too much blood has been spilled and too much money has been borrowed and spent. What will it take to get our troops back home, close the book on this exercise in futility and begin the healing process?
Robert @ Fri, 18 May 2007 09:50

I looked at a couple of your sites. I still have not seen that 70% Iraqis believing that it is ok to shoot American Soldiers. Please be a little more specifc.

We are rebuilding the electrical plants and water treatment facilities in Ramadi.


The National Guard troops took the same oath like every other Soldier to protect against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Just because they are National Guard does not mean they are not Soldiers.
alancharles @ Fri, 18 May 2007 11:38
Robert, apparently you didn't read the links very closely. When you open it will show that 94% of Sunni Muslims believe it is ok and 51% of Shiite Muslims believe it is ok. I also suggested you google the polls so you could read others. This particular one was an ABC poll of 456 towns in Iraq.

It's great you're rebuilding the electrical and water treatment plants in Ramadi, but Baghdad is where most of the damage was done when we flew 1700 sorties over Baghdad during the week of "shock and awe." A sortie carries a minimum of 3 bombs. That's in excess of 5,000 bombs on a civilian population in a metropolitan area. How many innocent civilians do you reckon we killed in that exercise?

The National Guard recruitment procedures promise the inductees they will be used in time of national catastrophes (like Hurricane Katrina) and as a homeland security force. To throw them into Iraq for extended tours of duty for three and four tours is a misuse and abuse of them and breaks the contractural agreement America made with them.
Robert @ Sat, 19 May 2007 10:25
You can make polls say anything. It really depends on what context you ask the question. I think that it is more important to instill in our Soldiers that if someone points a weapon at them, that they shoot to kill. Believe it or not that has been a problem.

The National Guard still goes through the same training as any other soldier. If they can provide a service here, then they should come.

A bomb dropped at high altitutdes is going to create collateral damage. I am sorry that is war. I don't beleive that we target civilians, however, if the insurgents do not want to comply with the rules of war, then civilians will continue to pay the price.
alancharles @ Sat, 19 May 2007 03:06
My, didn't you turn on a dime? How quickly you've gone from "the Iraqis are a great people" to "if one points a weapon at us, we should shoot to kill."

You're facing the age-old dilemna we all face when backed into a corner trying to defend a position ~ and doing it badly.

You completely missed the point of my comments about the National Guard and the 5,000 bombs dropped on a metropolitan area full of innocent civilians.

Perhaps you would be happier posting your comments on a site that agrees with your position on this war rather than trying to convince those of us who don't that we should.
curious @ Sat, 19 May 2007 08:50
Thank you alancharles for your response to Robert. When I came on and saw his hate filled and prejudiced comment, I had to get off the site immediately in disgust. It would be much better Robert, if you did go to a site that entertained killing innocent people, stomping on our constitution, letting our own people die in the midst of disaster and imprisioning people just because of hate and bigotry of skin color and region of living. You will be among friends. They want to destroy and bankrupt what our country has stood for also. We gave you respect that you most definitely do not deserve.
curious @ Sat, 19 May 2007 09:05
angry One more thing Robert; I think Ava had you pegged exactly RIGHT!
Robert @ Sat, 19 May 2007 09:54
I don't understand how it is that you do not agree with me that self-defense. How is it hate filled when you shoot someone in self defense. My guys go out there and they are afraid they will get into legal trouble if they don't shoot first.

National Guard Soldiers are Soldiers. There is no escape from that. They gave an oath ALL enemies foreign and domestic. That is just a fact.

We have tried to reduce the collteral damage here. However, that is impossilbe. When you go to war people are going to get hurt, that is just a fact.

Curious, I am sorry if you point a weapon at a Soldier, your innocence is lost.

Finally, there are more people here than just the Iraqis, and why is no one paying attention to that fact. Everyday we are detaining foreign fighters. This is not a civil war
Robert @ Sat, 19 May 2007 10:00

How was Ava right about me? She said that my IP address was not in Iraq. The server that we are using is not in Iraq. We use satellites in this day and age. If you were to mail me a letter, it would only cost you a first class stamp, because of the APO system. You are not sending it at international rates.

I am sorry that I don't know a lot about how IP addresses and that sort of thing works, but I hate being here and then being called a liar. I know that my wife and mom miss me. If
I am not in Iraq, where am I? I would like to know
curious @ Sat, 19 May 2007 11:11
You should be ashamed of yourself for how you feel about every predjudiced and hate filled feeling and how easy it is for you to be misguided.
It always amazes me that you can pretent the most important statements have not been addressed and only respond to the most unimportant. You cannot respond to anything but an IP address. As usual, you miss the point. You should hate being there and for the sake of you and your mother, I hope that you get home soon. Also for the hope and prayers of a country of people that did nothing to you but not want a country to invade and occupy them. They do not need another predudiced person there that feels that they as a people and country are next to inhuman and not worthy of life. As usual respond to the unimportant insignificant and do not respond to the issue.
curious @ Sat, 19 May 2007 11:27
I have taken a deep breath and decided to get back on. Even though I fear for this world and our country with people that can be so manipulated with their thoughts, I want to apologize. You had to know when you came on this site that people want peace, a stop to corruption with accountablility and everything that, at this point, I do not feel that you want. You have been treated with respect and many people have tried to give you information to just open your eyes. We would not have been given that same respect on a right wing web site. I never want to feel that I did not give more.

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